Spider-Man (Andrew Garfield) vs Makkari (Eternals)

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> "I am well aware spiderman has these feats"

> "If we ignore these feats then spiderman has no feats"

Bruh, What kind of logic is this?

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#52 MikeMageo  Online

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I am well aware of Spider-mans feats of dodging electricity and the like. My problem stems from the fact that outside these feats, we do not get a single feat of Spider-man moving at 1/100 this of this speed. If Spider-man is this fast, then why does he only use this combat speed when fighting Electro? It makes no logical sense. Not to mention the fact that we see the electricity moving at free fall speeds and normal people reacting to it.

It can all be written off as VFX issues or PIS, or it can be acknowledged that Spider-man is not light speed.

I think it’s simply he reacts to what the plot needs him to, you know to make it a entertaining fight in his movies. We know he can react to electro, we’ve seen him do it dozens of times.. I think that’s pretty impressive on its face… and calcs tend to agree.

I don’t know that a fair argument can be made that he could never react to her, that seems silly in light of his dozens of feats.. i dont think he can do it forever tho, and she has some great stats.

I still think 50/50, he can dodge, but not forever, and he can take her out with webs if he’s smart about it.

So he only uses this speed when fighting Electro?

In the film, we see that the electricity isn't moving at relativistic speeds when climbing up metal and being reacted to by normal people. We also see Spider-man failing to catch a subsonic glider.

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All of this evidence against relativistic Spider-man can easily be ignored, or it can be acknowledged that he cannot reach these speeds based on what the movie tells us.

We've never seen Spider-man move at so much as mach 1 in travel speed. We've never seen Spider-man move at so much as 1/100 the speed of light outside of fighting Electro, whereas he is being put up against a speedster who can circle the Earth in seconds and has sub-rel combat speed.

I think this is a mismatch in favor of Makkari.

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#53 MikeMageo  Online

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> "I am well aware spiderman has these feats"

> "If we ignore these feats then spiderman has no feats"

Bruh, What kind of logic is this?

Yes. When Spider-man is not fighting against Electro, note that he doesn't have a single combat speed feat putting him close to the presumed speed (i.e relativistic). Perhaps because he isn't capable of moving that fast?

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#54  Edited By death4bunnies  Online
@mikemageo said:
@death4bunnies said:
@mikemageo said:

I am well aware of Spider-mans feats of dodging electricity and the like. My problem stems from the fact that outside these feats, we do not get a single feat of Spider-man moving at 1/100 this of this speed. If Spider-man is this fast, then why does he only use this combat speed when fighting Electro? It makes no logical sense. Not to mention the fact that we see the electricity moving at free fall speeds and normal people reacting to it.

It can all be written off as VFX issues or PIS, or it can be acknowledged that Spider-man is not light speed.

I think it’s simply he reacts to what the plot needs him to, you know to make it a entertaining fight in his movies. We know he can react to electro, we’ve seen him do it dozens of times.. I think that’s pretty impressive on its face… and calcs tend to agree.

I don’t know that a fair argument can be made that he could never react to her, that seems silly in light of his dozens of feats.. i dont think he can do it forever tho, and she has some great stats.

I still think 50/50, he can dodge, but not forever, and he can take her out with webs if he’s smart about it.

So he only uses this speed when fighting Electro?

In the film, we see that the electricity isn't moving at relativistic speeds when climbing up metal and being reacted to by normal people. We also see Spider-man failing to catch a subsonic glider.

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All of this evidence against relativistic Spider-man can easily be ignored, or it can be acknowledged that he cannot reach these speeds based on what the movie tells us.

We've never seen Spider-man move at so much as mach 1 in travel speed. We've never seen Spider-man move at so much as 1/100 the speed of light outside of fighting Electro, whereas he is being put up against a speedster who can circle the Earth in seconds and has sub-rel combat speed.

I think this is a mismatch in favor of Makkari.

Imma have to disagree, literally dozens of feats show that he can react to Makkri, and yes he only used this speed against someone Incredibly fast… with precog I don’t know why he wouldn’t do it here.

Showing 1-2 antifeats from earlier in the movie compared to the dozens I showed from the end of the movie(current Spider-Man) isn’t very convincing, and on top of electristy reactions he’s seen bullets and missiles in slo mo and completely statued people in other scenes.. he’s very fast throughout, and end of film SM has 20+ insane electristy reaction feats.

And about Goblin, I already said SM goes about as fast as who he’s facing, majj oh ss for a exiting story, no NLF, I’m happy capping him at being able to react to electro.


I still think it could go either way due to Makkris stats and SMs webs.

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