• Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic TFU Darth Vader and Starkiller vs ROTS Sidious and ROTS Yoda. on the Battles board

    @shootingnova: I'm fine, thanksDisagreed. Per the junior novel, Palpatine was desperate to the point of being unsure he could win against Yoda and was disarmed at a later point. It was very much a lif...

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic TFU Darth Vader and Starkiller vs ROTS Sidious and ROTS Yoda. on the Battles board

    @shootingnova said: @zapan871: It isn't clear to me that Marek "replicated" Yoda's feat when he literally gave his life to hold Palpatine off, which is hardly the same as a contest of (near-)equals. "...

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic TFU Darth Vader and Starkiller vs ROTS Sidious and ROTS Yoda. on the Battles board

    Team 1, at least in a Force battle. Vader tanked the Oneness attack of Galen, and the latter, even before that, replicated Yoda's feat against TFU Palpatine who is far more powerful than Yoda, with th...

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Revan vs Vader. on the Battles board

    @darthor: Darksiders are always angry, but that doesn't mean they are amped all the time, it's their base power. Yes, rage amps do exist, but they happen when you are particularly angry e.g. Ventress ...

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Revan vs Vader. on the Battles board

    @eredin12: Just saying, but Vader scales astronomically above this anyway:After his servants sabotage a local power plant, he unleashes his anger on the floating cities of Genarius. Lighting arcs thro...

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Edo Madara vs Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. on the Battles board

    @eredin12: I wasn't arguing for another interpretation, just meant that others could do it to dismiss the feat, if you ask me I belive it's straightforward. And damn, I completely forgot about the TFU...

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Edo Madara vs Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. on the Battles board

    @eredin12: I'm somehow hesitant to take the SSD comparison seriously, because it could even put TFU to shame if taken in the sense of destructive power, and I can't see Disney Canon going that far. At...

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Edo Madara vs Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. on the Battles board

    @eredin12: What other examples do you have of Vader's beast control? Yes, and no match is ambiguous as it doesn't specify in what way. Also, Vader could have easily mentally ordered the creature to st...

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Edo Madara vs Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. on the Battles board

    @eredin12: It could just as easily be a showing of Beast Control, though:Darth Vader survives every single one of the Emperor's tests. The assassin Ochi and his Droid Crush. The Umbaran's fleet of Sta...

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Onslaught Malgus runs a gauntlet.. on the Battles board

    @frozen: Luke, as a barely trained Force user, shortly after ANH, shook a Star Destroyer though.

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  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Darth Vader vs Darth Plagueis. on the Battles board

    Vader was so strong that OT Sidious, who should have grown astronomically since TPM, was worried about his power, Plagueis is stuck below TPM Sidious. Still, you could possibly make a case for him bas...

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Darth Revan vs Count Dookan. on the Battles board

    Dooku stomps

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Darth Maul vs Darth Vader. on the Battles board

    @wolfrazer: I don't get why it should be a separate continuity, though.

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Darth Maul vs Darth Vader. on the Battles board

    @wolfrazer: You'll see, tomorrow most likely.

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Darth Maul vs Darth Vader. on the Battles board

    @wolfrazer: Oh, I agree about that, in fact I'm preparing a case for Vader based on his Rotj feat against Sidious, I was just saying that TCW Maul is well above TPM Maul both by accolades and feats.

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Darth Maul vs Darth Vader. on the Battles board

    @frozen: His Rotj feat against Palpatine's lightning, but as I said, it requires some explanation to be fully grasped, and I have no time right now.

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Darth Maul vs Darth Vader. on the Battles board

    @frozen: I see, the continuity split happened in 2014, right? Btw, Vader has a feat that should put him above Maul and Dooku at least in Legends, but it's not easily digestible.

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Emperor Valkorion (KOTFE) vs. Yoda. on the Battles board

    Depends on how much you believe Valk grew after Ziost, as before that he was canonically below TPM Sidious, hence it also depends on how much below the latter you believe he is.

  • Zapan871 posted a message in the forum topic Secrets of the Sith. on the Gen. Discussion board

    @sonofdarkness: Nice, I'll add the Ventress quote to my respect thread and credit you for it, thanks.